1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:20,000 [Music] 2 00:00:10,500 --> 00:00:15,800 This is GamesItWork.biz, your weekly podcast about gaming, technology, and play. 3 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,199 Your hosts are Michael Martine, Andy Piper, and Michael Rowe. 4 00:00:19,199 --> 00:00:22,800 The thoughts and opinions on this podcast are those of the hosts and guests alone, 5 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:28,399 and are not the opinions of any organization which they have been, are, or may be, affiliated with. 6 00:00:33,100 --> 00:00:37,600 This is episode 545, Cyberpunk, Pot Holes. 7 00:00:38,500 --> 00:00:41,079 [upbeat music] 8 00:00:45,500 --> 00:00:50,219 Hello and welcome again to Games at Work.biz, your weekly technology podcast, 9 00:00:50,219 --> 00:00:56,939 my name is Andy Piper and with me this week is one of my good friends called Michael Mr. Michael Rowe, how are you Michael? 10 00:00:58,500 --> 00:01:07,019 Andy, I am just peachy keen, happy fine, and I'm looking over your right shoulder and loving the two mastodon plushies. 11 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:18,640 Yup, I have a stack of Macedons and Macedon related things on my shelves, which is also great content for an audio podcast So people know about that 12 00:01:17,500 --> 00:01:32,000 Yes. I was following a two yesterday on, I guess, there was an impromptu made beanie, 13 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:35,000 Oh yeah, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. 14 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:45,879 knit cap, and there was a poll, and I said I would buy one of those if the shipping to the US wasn't astronomically insane, which is why I didn't get that plushy either. 15 00:01:41,500 --> 00:01:52,219 Yeah, the shipping is the big. Yeah, the shipping is a big challenge at the moment and that's worldwide as well because, you know, even in the UK, shipping from Europe is a problem, 16 00:01:52,219 --> 00:02:02,939 but we're doing our best with things. It's, it's just a small way to keep a little bit of income coming in. It's not a, certainly not going to cover all of our costs for the merchandise, 17 00:02:02,939 --> 00:02:09,259 but it's a way to show a bit of support as well. So yeah. But we've got some ideas. 18 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,120 - No, not at all. 19 00:02:06,500 --> 00:02:07,319 Yep. 20 00:02:09,099 --> 00:02:11,840 Cool, so what do we wanna talk about today? 21 00:02:11,500 --> 00:02:21,020 What do we want to talk about today? Well, we've got a few things in the one, the first thing I is something I found just today before we started recording, which is some new Kickstarter 22 00:02:21,580 --> 00:02:29,579 for these new electronic gauntlets. And the demo that they're showing on Hackster is, I think, 23 00:02:22,500 --> 00:02:26,500 Yes? Yes. 24 00:02:29,579 --> 00:02:41,579 could be the initial version of these comes with this kind of, so they're gone as they sit on top of your forearm. They've got some kind of metallic owie. 25 00:02:41,500 --> 00:03:11,420 So with the screen and some buttons and it's got some kind of charging port and the thing that they demonstrate in the video and attached to the Hackster article is a drone that you can launch from your arm, which looks kind of fun, a small drone. But the interesting thing is that they are talking about this as a modular system so that users in the community can develop 26 00:03:11,500 --> 00:03:25,020 their own modules. The gauntlets themselves have some level of smart features, health and fitness tracking and some features, enabling phone connections so you can get your notifications or whatever, 27 00:03:25,740 --> 00:03:34,620 but the idea being that you could plug on additional functionality and looks kind of cool. 28 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,400 Yeah, yeah, I was I was watching the Kickstarter video 29 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,400 for it and 30 00:03:43,919 --> 00:03:51,000 You know you mentioned they they hook on to your forearms and I was like yep, that's what God let's do 31 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,400 And I 32 00:03:56,319 --> 00:04:03,360 I was imagining use cases where it would be convenient to have 33 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,520 more than 34 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:22,000 a watch, right? But was not so bulky or evasive or, I don't even know what the right word is, 35 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:43,000 where this would be convenient, right? Because while the drone looked cool, yeah no. Now if it or a little tiny drone that fits somewhere inside the gauntlet and you pressed a button or set a command and it popped out of the gauntlet and unfolded in there as it's falling to the ground and took off. 36 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,000 It kind of unfold you yeah 37 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,000 Now that would be kind of cool cyberpunky. 38 00:04:46,000 --> 00:05:06,000 Well what it looked like looking at the at the demo video is as part of the Kickstarter or part of the offering when it's available they're going to have some pre-shaped magnets that you can stick on things and there's a flat around flat. 39 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:25,000 So that's where the drone hooks up because there's a big enough space for a magnet that might be strong enough to hold even this small drone as well as to the right and the left of the screen that's in the center of the gauntlet. 40 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:31,000 There are these magnetic connectors where you attach the modules. 41 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:35,560 And so, uh, the, uh, 42 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:46,399 the big bulky ones are the ones that I wonder how, how often would you do this? If you're gonna do that, wouldn't you want two gauntlets then one on each arm? So you have, you know, access to some of the other stuff because the big 43 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:52,720 drone that they show. And yes, big, what I mean by big is maybe like four inches. So small. 44 00:05:54,480 --> 00:06:05,759 Is probably going to overlap some of the other modules that you've plugged in and definitely going to overlap the display that's built in. But yeah, yeah. 45 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:33,360 Conceptually, absolutely agree. This looks fun, cool. Get this. And do you remember, gosh, I guess now it would be five years ago, the face mask that had the microphones in it and the speakers that was designed around COVID time that you could write, had the air filters, have one of those on with these gauntlets, 46 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:40,959 Oh yeah, yeah, but didn't that, but didn't that get, that didn't that get proven to be useless and everybody had to be refunded or something, there were not many of them sold, something like that. 47 00:06:39,500 --> 00:06:53,180 Yeah. I mean, they finally shipped it almost a year. They shipped it like really late. It showed up at CES, I think, right around or shortly after CES, right when COVID started happening. 48 00:06:53,980 --> 00:07:02,860 And then I think it shipped like in November or later. And I remember, oh, God, who was it? 49 00:07:04,699 --> 00:07:09,339 It wasn't, I'm totally going blank on her name. Yeah. 50 00:07:06,500 --> 00:07:08,980 There's one of the influences, right? 51 00:07:09,500 --> 00:07:28,819 The enclosure was taking it on a plane. I'm totally going blank on her. Thank you, Felicia Day, who I've met and talked to and she's very nice. But I think it was a Felicia Day was they have the person who showed it. I think she may have shown one too. Anyway, 52 00:07:10,899 --> 00:07:11,939 Mm-hmm. 53 00:07:28,819 --> 00:07:39,459 doesn't really matter. Yes, that mask, these gauntlets, maybe those shoes that that Michael talked about a couple of weeks ago from Nike that accelerates. 54 00:07:39,500 --> 00:07:44,540 You're speed and you're halfway through becoming a mess. 55 00:07:46,500 --> 00:07:58,959 Well, if you scroll down the kickstarter page, they go into the details of the history of the team and the product, and the patent goes back to November 2024. 56 00:07:58,959 --> 00:08:12,240 After they failed to get an exoskeleton startup off the ground over the course of 2023, and they've now come up with this thing. 57 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:16,480 so it's called the Titan. I'm probably, I'm almost certain I went 58 00:08:16,500 --> 00:08:24,420 be investing in this particular Kickstarter, but it looks interesting and fun and I'm curious to see what happens. 59 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:42,519 Yeah, they've, they've, they've, as of time of our recording, uh, they have 14 left in their super early bird option and 25 left in the early bird option and 10 in the kickstart. 60 00:08:42,519 --> 00:08:45,200 So it's not got much of an uptick. 61 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:50,440 I mean, there's a lot of people in the elite super early bird, uh, relatively speaking. 62 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:51,279 But yeah. 63 00:08:50,500 --> 00:09:00,899 Well, that's because they're pledging what they're pledging $599 to save $50 on the estimated retail of $650. 64 00:09:00,899 --> 00:09:12,899 And then if you add your Apple Vision Pro on your head, then that gives you your $4,000, you know, nice, nice round numbers. 65 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:01,840 - Yeah. 66 00:09:04,940 --> 00:09:08,460 - Oh yeah, that with the mask, these and the feet. 67 00:09:08,460 --> 00:09:09,299 - Yeah. 68 00:09:11,159 --> 00:09:15,240 - Well, no, no, that's only if you've got the base actual vision problem. 69 00:09:14,899 --> 00:09:21,700 Right, right, right, right. Talking of Apple Vision Pro. 70 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:16,240 [laughing] 71 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:17,919 Some of us do not have the base one. 72 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,000 [laughing] 73 00:09:20,500 --> 00:09:32,500 Apple and VR and Virtual Reality Augmented Reality. We've spoken previously about the pivot last week about two different types of wearables that Apple may be making. 74 00:09:32,500 --> 00:09:41,500 And there's another story this week on via 9 to 5 Mac about their smart glasses that allegedly are coming. 75 00:09:41,500 --> 00:09:45,500 There's another remote which we haven't got a link for, which is the next week. 76 00:09:45,500 --> 00:09:50,340 So as the podcast comes out on Monday, Apple will be launching a series of new devices 77 00:09:50,500 --> 00:10:10,500 probably including touch screen max and colorful laptops but, well, they did you see the little video clip with the Apple logo and the hand manipulating the Apple logo, we'll see, we'll see, there's rumors, there's rumors, it's another rumor time, it's always rumors 78 00:09:54,500 --> 00:09:58,820 They're not going to launch the touchscreen Mac next week. That's going to be September. 79 00:10:04,580 --> 00:10:22,659 Yeah. Yeah. It's always room. But what's interesting about this is we don't tend to talk about acquisitions very often, but Apple recently acquired a company called QAI 80 00:10:24,500 --> 00:10:34,820 about this. If it works, half as well as the hype of the press announcements of the acquisition. 81 00:10:34,820 --> 00:10:44,019 Okay. Is a technology hire or acquisition, an aqua hire, whatever you want to call it, that uses 82 00:10:44,980 --> 00:10:54,419 nonverbal speech and understands it and can use it in a setting like this. So if you can imagine 83 00:10:54,500 --> 00:11:00,340 kind of whispering to yourself with no sound whatsoever, you know, hey, dingus, turn on the lights 84 00:11:01,220 --> 00:11:10,899 and you're wearing these glasses and they have the right sensors or maybe it's in the air pods or whatever. And then you can have interactions without looking like the crazy person sitting there, 85 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:21,100 Well, I do do that with the AirPods where you can do the shake head or not head interaction if you get a notification. 86 00:11:11,779 --> 00:11:14,419 you know, vibe coding in their glasses or something. 87 00:11:19,700 --> 00:11:24,419 Yeah, this is spoken words. That's the thing 88 00:11:21,100 --> 00:11:22,519 Yeah, I see that. 89 00:11:24,500 --> 00:11:41,500 that I find really interesting about this one, because I wouldn't mind having the UI elements of the vision pro in a much lighter, lower powered device, right? So glasses, glasses would be nice with that. 90 00:11:41,500 --> 00:11:47,500 I'm almost constantly in AirPods so that I can focus and do other things, right? 91 00:11:47,500 --> 00:11:54,500 So if I could get that with the visual overlays of some of the content of vision pro, but in fact... 92 00:11:54,500 --> 00:12:08,500 some glasses and then the ability to not sound like a crazy person talking to myself out loud, I think this is a kind of a neat, neat potential part for upcoming, quote unquote, Apple glasses. 93 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:20,240 Well, let's assume that I switched to Android in order to install this new app which enables you to discover using Bluetooth and be warned if somebody wearing smart glasses is near you, 94 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:24,879 then were you enit wearing those glasses that you've just described and I was near you. 95 00:12:24,879 --> 00:12:28,879 My Android phone would tell me Michael's wearing those glasses and I wouldn't come near you. 96 00:12:28,500 --> 00:12:36,179 Yes, but let's be honest, if it was Apple, it'd be so branded, it'd be like a giant. 97 00:12:34,500 --> 00:12:36,740 [laughing] 98 00:12:36,179 --> 00:12:39,379 And instead of the tape on the bridge of your glasses, it would be an apple. 99 00:12:39,740 --> 00:12:41,440 - That's probably true. 100 00:12:44,100 --> 00:12:46,740 But yeah, I actually found that article interesting too. 101 00:12:49,379 --> 00:12:55,860 As London is supposed to be the most filmed surveilled city on the planet, 102 00:12:57,220 --> 00:12:58,500 New York is starting. 103 00:12:58,500 --> 00:13:04,379 to make a run for that money, right? 104 00:13:03,500 --> 00:13:29,500 This is interesting, because this came up recently in conversation at home about the Flock Ring hook up and the outrage, the uproar that happened after the Super Bowl commercial about the Find the Dog in the neighborhood and then Ring have backed away from this partnership with Flock because of, I believe, 105 00:13:04,379 --> 00:13:07,500 I have a high bar of privacy that I want. 106 00:13:29,500 --> 00:13:32,220 Flocks saying well, it's not just that 107 00:13:29,500 --> 00:13:33,500 believe that wish amendment is, which amendment is, is it? 108 00:13:33,500 --> 00:13:41,500 the fourth amendment, the, the right to privacy, right? And, right. But it's, but it's, but it's to do with, 109 00:13:34,820 --> 00:13:36,820 Fourth 110 00:13:37,139 --> 00:13:39,139 Well, there is no right to privacy amendment 111 00:13:40,259 --> 00:13:46,620 Right that the Supreme Court said there's a right to privacy the fourth is unreasonable search and seizure seizure 112 00:13:46,700 --> 00:13:51,059 So which is equated to privacy because that means you can't search my stuff if I don't give you permission 113 00:13:50,500 --> 00:14:20,419 right, right. So it's to do with, yeah, there's interpretations of that that basically give you more permissions around, you know, your home and surroundings as according to the member, which is stuff that I've learned about the American Constitution and how it gets interpreted or is set up. So, and we were talking about the fact, as you say, that in the UK, you do have this, and it's not necessary. 114 00:14:20,500 --> 00:14:29,500 It's probably something that we think about a lot, but there is a lot of public use of closed-circuit television cameras. 115 00:14:29,500 --> 00:14:40,500 So, some of the things that were being described in terms of what the flock and ring combination might be enabling is stuff that is potentially already possible in the UK. 116 00:14:40,500 --> 00:14:49,500 How commonly it's used, I can't comment on, but it is an interesting cultural difference between the ways that we think about what's 117 00:14:50,500 --> 00:14:53,500 society and with the technology around us. Yeah. 118 00:14:51,500 --> 00:14:56,500 - Yeah, well, what, so there was a show, 119 00:15:00,259 --> 00:15:05,259 gosh, eight, 10 years ago maybe called humans. 120 00:15:07,019 --> 00:15:21,399 And the very first episode has these people breaking into some building and they're wearing these necklaces and the necklaces are IR in May. 121 00:15:21,500 --> 00:15:23,500 Mm-hmm 122 00:15:21,500 --> 00:15:33,500 So you can't see their faces, and I keep thinking with, you know, you might have smart glasses near me. 123 00:15:24,379 --> 00:15:26,379 Mm-hmm 124 00:15:33,500 --> 00:15:38,500 That's one thing, right? You have the meta glasses, right? The ray bands. 125 00:15:38,500 --> 00:15:48,500 And you had the little Oculus, the Oculus, what an Oculus, the Kickstarter version basically. 126 00:15:43,500 --> 00:15:47,340 Yeah. Yeah. 127 00:15:48,500 --> 00:16:02,500 And one is knowing that you have glasses that could film that I find more interesting would be our filming, right? 128 00:16:02,500 --> 00:16:19,500 And then have, you know, my gauntlets say, "Hey, you're filming, immediately turn on a Bluetooth sensor on a necklace on my neck and hit the IR blaster so that you can't see me." 129 00:16:19,500 --> 00:16:24,980 back to the Cyberpunk, how the future society is going to deal with all of this. 130 00:16:21,980 --> 00:16:26,940 Yes, because yeah. 131 00:16:24,980 --> 00:16:31,500 Well, I mean, forgetting future society, let's all just be muppets. 132 00:16:31,100 --> 00:16:32,379 Current society. 133 00:16:32,379 --> 00:16:40,059 Yes, and did you get to watch the recent Muppet Show episode? 134 00:16:39,500 --> 00:16:46,100 No, it's on our backlog list of things that we keep meaning to go and watch on on there 135 00:16:46,059 --> 00:16:51,419 It was a, it was a Muppet Show episode period the end. 136 00:16:49,460 --> 00:16:58,360 My picture Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think we watched a couple of skits from it particularly musical ones, but I haven't seen the full thing 137 00:16:51,580 --> 00:16:53,980 Quite well done, etc. 138 00:16:53,980 --> 00:16:56,620 However, yeah. 139 00:16:59,580 --> 00:17:08,859 Well, what's interesting, I saw a tooth this week about a daily dot article 140 00:17:10,859 --> 00:17:18,779 that evidently Disneyland had a ride called Muppet Vision in 3D or something like that. 141 00:17:17,500 --> 00:17:19,500 Yeah, yeah. 142 00:17:19,819 --> 00:17:20,859 I never knew this. 143 00:17:21,500 --> 00:17:25,180 I think I've been to many Disney places over the years of my life. 144 00:17:26,539 --> 00:17:35,339 And what's interesting is, the Disney+ team has been approached by 145 00:17:38,220 --> 00:17:44,619 has approached Brian Henson, I think, and asked to be able to make that ride, which is being shut down, 146 00:17:44,500 --> 00:17:45,500 Mm-hmm. 147 00:17:45,819 --> 00:17:49,900 and resurrected as a VR experience for people. 148 00:17:51,500 --> 00:17:55,099 The assumption is this will be on the Vision Pro by default, 149 00:17:55,099 --> 00:18:00,859 because the relationships between Disney and Apple, etc. 150 00:18:01,980 --> 00:18:07,019 I remember reading something in the article that is this same type of things, 151 00:18:07,660 --> 00:18:11,819 being approached on other different virtual reality rides for 152 00:18:12,779 --> 00:18:16,299 the meta quest and other platforms, just VR platforms in general. 153 00:18:16,299 --> 00:18:21,339 I would think that Disney would want to make this one also available 154 00:18:21,500 --> 00:18:26,140 on other platforms which would not be a Vision Pro exclusive. 155 00:18:26,140 --> 00:18:32,539 And having never seen it, but being a fan of them up, this will be in my queue as soon as it's available. 156 00:18:33,500 --> 00:18:48,859 the muppets in VR for your headset or my headset coming soon potentially. That sounds terrifying to me, but I'm gonna have muppet chickens flocking me from all directions. 157 00:18:39,500 --> 00:18:48,140 Yes, depends on which muppet it is, right? 158 00:18:48,859 --> 00:18:55,900 Yes, I'm speaking of flock. 159 00:18:52,619 --> 00:19:00,539 Yeah. Now you were particularly entertained by a little video that was posted on on this week that, uh, 160 00:19:00,779 --> 00:19:07,180 I was, and you were not as entertained. 161 00:19:04,500 --> 00:19:06,500 You kind of have to see it. 162 00:19:06,500 --> 00:19:09,500 I don't know how well this is going to work again as a visual gag, 163 00:19:09,500 --> 00:19:12,500 given that our podcast is in audio. 164 00:19:12,500 --> 00:19:14,500 But let's see how you do. 165 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:21,500 Well, you want to definitely go to our show notes and click through to the master's on post and then watch the embedded video. 166 00:19:21,500 --> 00:19:27,299 So, this is a... how to describe it. 167 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:32,279 Hmm. Yes. Mm-hmm. 168 00:19:27,299 --> 00:19:38,799 So, it's a train on a track in a station and you hear the announcement that the train is being delayed to leaving the station. 169 00:19:38,799 --> 00:19:42,680 Okay, and they open the doors to the train. 170 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,660 And you're like, "Well, what's delaying it?" 171 00:19:45,660 --> 00:19:52,339 And suddenly, an exact replica of that train at about 1/10 scale, 172 00:19:52,339 --> 00:19:58,160 maybe not that small, but pretty small, slides into view in the doors of the train. 173 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:05,240 And you hear another announcement that a tiny train has delayed the train in the station, 174 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:11,680 and it's doors open up, and there is another 1/10 scale of that 1/10 scale, 175 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:12,680 Tiny train. 176 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:31,000 And it does this multiple times. I find this hilarious because I'm a big fan of the tick and the tick if you're familiar or not familiar with the tick was a superhero and one of the one of the statements of one of the characters on the tick was I'm full of tinier men and to me this is full of tinier trains. 177 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:44,920 So my part in this is it is trying to describe to the audience the look of sheer glee and delight as Michael described exactly what was going on in this video to to us just then. 178 00:20:39,500 --> 00:20:48,940 it's fun you've got to have fun every once in a while and this was fun 179 00:20:47,759 --> 00:21:00,240 There's there's another post we've got here under our art section this week which is also a very visual one that is worth coming in and clicking through to it's from Jason cockers blog. 180 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:09,160 And he has cataloged a number of unusual views of the winter Olympics that have just finished in Italy and. 181 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:30,160 It is some quite beautiful photos using different techniques to create unique views of the games so for example there is curling taken using that miniature miniaturization technique tilt shift which gives you that kind of toy effect of. 182 00:21:31,279 --> 00:21:38,759 Of the subject there's other things using vintage cameras at moat with multiple exposures there's things using. 183 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:52,960 The thermal imaging cameras as well showing which of course is quite striking given a winter games where you've got the extreme cold of the surrounding and then the extreme heat of the human competitors so. 184 00:21:53,799 --> 00:21:57,440 It's really quite interesting and a different way of looking at the games. 185 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:12,480 I really enjoyed those. There were so many of them and there's an article that he clicks through that shows that the actual base articles from the Atlantic. Yeah. Very cool. 186 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:23,200 Right. A couple of more to round off the show. We've got a few things to talk about. One of them is our friend, the Mars rover and our friend, the Mars helicopter. 187 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:42,960 Our friends once more. So, listeners to the show will remember that we are into space and we have been following the the travails of NASA's mission to Mars in some detail. And the ingenuity helicopter shut down some time ago because it ran out of power or could 188 00:22:43,000 --> 00:23:12,759 I think it had a little bit of damage as well. Yeah. So, there were a few things that it was only intended to last a couple of days when it went up as an experiment. It managed to do 72 missions and it was a long time that they managed to do things with it. But what they've actually managed to do now, and this is one of those mind-blowing things when you think about what has happened, that there are these machines, electronic machines that humans 189 00:22:44,500 --> 00:22:48,220 I thought the propellers got damaged over time because of the sand and stuff 190 00:22:52,660 --> 00:22:54,660 Yep 191 00:22:57,059 --> 00:22:59,059 Months worth of time 192 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:40,000 managed to deliver to a far off planet elsewhere on our solar system and are still able to reuse them and do things with them. So, they've now managed to deliver any workload to the helicopter base station, which essentially acts as a remote GPS for the rover because the rover kept losing track of itself because it didn't have GPS. 193 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,720 And so it would, it would kind of, you know, 194 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:55,400 carry on trundling along and then estimating how, well, where it was, but now it can communicate with the helicopter, which can actually detect because it has a much better processor, I think 100 times faster than the rover. 195 00:23:56,599 --> 00:24:09,079 Actually like actors triangulation and help it to figure out, apparently the algorithm takes about two minutes to pinpoint the rover's location to within about 25 centimeters and. 196 00:24:09,799 --> 00:24:18,680 reinforce the rover where it is. It's, it's really quite clever. It's just amazing stuff. 197 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:30,640 it's just crazy. It is. It's amazing. I can imagine the rover. It reminds you of an old Steve Martin phrase or way of speaking in his old comedy routines of "We're Am I?" 198 00:24:30,500 --> 00:24:31,940 [laughs] 199 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:38,319 The rover is sitting there and the ground controls are going, "Bress your own Mars." 200 00:24:38,500 --> 00:24:49,460 Well, luckily, the rover hasn't yet encountered the kinds of potholes that it might find on Earth. 201 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:39,279 Thank you. 202 00:24:49,460 --> 00:25:07,940 I mean, it's got a much worse, in fact, to deal with that up on Mars, but on Earth, there's a company in the UK that's been reported this week in Bojini's report as being able to do some work around helping a local government, 203 00:25:08,500 --> 00:25:14,500 the organisation in the UK, figure out when pothole's going to form. 204 00:25:14,500 --> 00:25:17,500 It turns out, when I did a background reading on this, 205 00:25:17,500 --> 00:25:21,500 that this has been happening for a couple of years. 206 00:25:21,500 --> 00:25:25,500 This is an old bit of news that we're being re-reported. 207 00:25:25,500 --> 00:25:28,500 I think there's some effort to apply, 208 00:25:28,500 --> 00:25:37,500 the kind of AI that is being used with these vehicles in the UK to problems, infrastructure problems in the US, at least in the article. 209 00:25:38,500 --> 00:25:40,500 This has evidently happened already. 210 00:25:40,500 --> 00:25:54,500 I was surprised to read about it because it talks about this being an autonomous vehicle and in the UK, we're only just about to start enabling self-driving taxes and so on in metropolitan areas. 211 00:25:54,500 --> 00:25:57,500 So I think it was a very early test of this kind of technology, 212 00:25:57,500 --> 00:26:01,500 but yeah, potholes. 213 00:26:01,500 --> 00:26:03,960 - Yeah, they're very cool, Paul's. 214 00:26:01,500 --> 00:26:04,500 Fixing before they happen. 215 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,039 [laughs] 216 00:26:04,500 --> 00:26:16,299 The final robotic link we have is somebody who manages to raise his own robot army which Michael you found typical for this space. 217 00:26:06,039 --> 00:26:08,039 Well, yeah. 218 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:25,799 Yeah, so and and I think this is coming across like all the news is in the in the US this week I don't know how visible this one was in the UK 219 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:37,299 but so a geek Like like the rest of us decided that he just bought a new RoboVac and it 220 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:45,960 You know has IOT capabilities as communication killed capabilities So, you figured out, you know, how can I reverse engineer its control? 221 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,000 So, that I can control it with a PS5 controller. 222 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,000 Mm-hmm 223 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,000 So, I can vacuum my house. 224 00:26:53,000 --> 00:27:00,000 Well, in typical IoT perspective, the developers of this device thought, 225 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:06,000 well, nobody would ever do anything to try to reverse engineer our command and control system. 226 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:12,000 And so, lo and behold, their back end was completely wide open. 227 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,920 and when he was controlling his own vacuum, 228 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,000 he was also controlling. 229 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:31,000 I mean, it's only a connected device that has the ability to map the inside of your house and tons of sensors on it. 230 00:27:27,500 --> 00:27:33,460 Yeah, why not with a camera and see inside of your house 231 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,000 Why not? 232 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,000 Where's the camera? Yes. 233 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:39,000 So, this is one of those stories. Yeah, no surprise. 234 00:27:35,900 --> 00:27:37,900 Well 235 00:27:38,980 --> 00:27:52,039 And on that bombshell, that's the end of our links run through this week so We will be back here again next week talking through some some tech and links But do share anything you find interesting to us on 236 00:27:52,579 --> 00:27:57,380 Macedon, games that work on the school biz, and otherwise we will see you. 237 00:27:57,500 --> 00:28:07,500 [music] 238 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,000 Bye 239 00:28:00,500 --> 00:28:05,779 You've been listening to games@work.biz, the podcast about gaming technology and play. 240 00:28:05,779 --> 00:28:09,299 We are part of the blueberry podcasting network, and we'd like to thank the band, 241 00:28:09,299 --> 00:28:12,259 Random Encounters for their song, Big Blue. 242 00:28:12,259 --> 00:28:16,980 You can follow us at our website at games@work.biz.